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    Guys you should stop to visit overpriced ladies who charge more money and even they are providing poor service so Say no to 200 hh ladies and 300 hour ,they are just taking advantages ,mostly they are scammers .

    2.I think you all will be agree on it, we should offer half price upfront and half price should give to ladies after we done,so we can save our ass from these bitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry2022 View Post
    Guys you should stop to visit overpriced ladies who charge more money and even they are providing poor service so Say no to 200 hh ladies and 300 hour ,they are just taking advantages ,mostly they are scammers .

    2.I think you all will be agree on it, we should offer half price upfront and half price should give to ladies after we done,so we can save our ass from these bitches.

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    Yes I agree the girls are jacking up rates that is why I am taking it easy until things cool down.

    Booking hour sessions and paying girls upfront has become super risky in 2023. Anyone booking longer then a hour is playing with fire!

    Ads saying what services are provided only to be not provided after she gets your money is the new normal.

    All these greedy girls need to go extinct like the dinosaur.

    All you white knights can come out and shame me now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krayt View Post
    Amanda is right in that this is a rich man’s sport.
    300/hr is too much?

    There is a lot of issues with the industry currently but thinking women need to be under 300/hr is not one of them. There has always been the sense that you pay for quality in this industry, while today more than ever that is questionable, doesn’t change the fact that being cheap usually meant the quality isn’t there.

    Not to mention, the cost of living for everyone has gone up significantly since Covid, so these women’s rates going up only makes sense. So with a quality provider being 300/hr is too much for you then I think you just found your time to exit this hobby
    I will always completely agree that a ladies rates are never up for debate. It’s her body, her business, she can set whatever price she wants. No different from any other independent contractor. A mechanic, plumber, electrician can set whatever rate they feel their service is worth, if you don’t like the rate then move on to someone else.

    I must say though that the “cost of living” argument actually made me laugh out loud and spit out some of my breakfast Caesar, lol. I’m sorry, but no, when someone is making $200k+/yr cash and only paying tax on the bare minimum to keep in good standing with the government, cost of living has no bearing on it.
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    Most i've ever paid was 350$ but it was actually worth it.
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    Amanda, your reputation is well above the average, and girls, like you deserve to get paid what you ask for. The problem is the scammers or poor service providers out there. I was just on a trip to Europe and spend quite some bucks in Germany and Switzerland. The average price per hour in both countries was converted to Canadian dollars 225 per hour. The service was quite superior to what I experience here. I am the average earner and usually am able to have money on the site for one or two visits per month. But lately I rather stack this by side and spend it on the trip abroad. It’s just terrible what the girls here except to get for poor service. either girls should offer a quality service, which represents the rates they ask for, or adjust a rate to present a Service, what they are willing to provide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krayt View Post
    How much they make or how much they pay in taxes is actually irrelevant.
    Whether you are on welfare or a billionaire, doesn’t change the fact that things cost a lot more now than they did pre Covid. While a majority of the ladies make the money that it’s not as big of an issue, it’s still an issue. We are all paying more for groceries and other necessities. Our utilities have increased, gas is again on the rise.

    If a woman changed 300/hr pre Covid and is charging that same amount today, end of the month she’s going to have less than she did before, it’s basic economics. If she books a hotel, there’s substantial increase there. Not to mention other supplies and then food on top of it all. Before guys used to always argue about rate increases but they never want to take into account basic inflation. Yet most of them would argue at their work if they were told they don’t deserve a raise. These women create a standard of living for themselves, when prices in life rise, why is it wrong to not assume their prices will rise?
    This is why I could never be a master debater (pun intended ��), I’m too good at seeing both sides of an argument. I stand by what I said and do think cost of living increases are less relevant as earnings increase. Food/living expenses are much less a percentage of earnings as earning level increases. But that’s not to say I think your point is altogether wrong either. At the end of the day, the main point of my original post is regardless of the justification being used, I do agree that any service provider in any industry is free to set whatever price they feel their service is worth. And I agree it’s not for others to judge that. If someone isn’t happy with that price they should just pass and move on. Cheers bud!
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    Yep the industry is no longer what it once was. Even the spas are getting bad. And with a lot of my go to's having retired it pretty much means my hobbying is at a stand still.
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    Excellent points all the way around.
    Three things.
    SPs should charge whatever the fuck they want.
    Guys who can't afford 300/hr should just stay home and masterbate to on-line porn (I prefer watching hot lesbians and exotic chicks myself, lol) or go see a 200-240/hr SP that likely matches up very well with their own age, looks, body and financial capability.
    Many (most?) younger SPs are overly entitled and should not be in this business at all because they don't really want to provide good sex and companionship for money. Go get a job that isn't an SP or an influencer.
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    The hottest ladies are all dolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda Labelle View Post
    Lol let's turn it around Alex. Lets suppose you are a very, very attractive escort and you can charge above 500 bucks with all the boundaries you want and people pays for it. Don't tell me you wouldn't do it.

    Don't tell me you would lower your price to suck as much dick as possible. I won't believe you.
    Of course she should do it. Exactly as i said in my first point.
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    They’re nice because the dolls don’t talk . Lol
    That’s why l like the Asian girls .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jochen Magnus View Post
    Amanda, your reputation is well above the average, and girls, like you deserve to get paid what you ask for. The problem is the scammers or poor service providers out there. I was just on a trip to Europe and spend quite some bucks in Germany and Switzerland. The average price per hour in both countries was converted to Canadian dollars 225 per hour. The service was quite superior to what I experience here. I am the average earner and usually am able to have money on the site for one or two visits per month. But lately I rather stack this by side and spend it on the trip abroad. It’s just terrible what the girls here except to get for poor service. either girls should offer a quality service, which represents the rates they ask for, or adjust a rate to present a Service, what they are willing to provide.
    Europe is amazing some of the most beautiful women u will see are there I remember going to many brothels back home and u would see 5,10 or even 20 women working in 1 brothel and there are other brothels right beside each other as well but each location of a brothel charge differently but there are brothels that charge cheaper like 100 euro 1 hour and 50 euro hh and yes beautiful women also work there as well the good thing about Europe and their brothels are u are not the only guy that will go and see a lady in at the same brothel u will see other guys there as well waiting like u to see ladies as well and they will tell u if the lady provides a good services or not if they seen them but u will see guys coming out and telling u that it was good or not so they save u some trouble

    Latin America is another place we're its good and Asia as well beautiful women in all countries :)
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    We have these type of discussions every year lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebony CICI Palmer View Post
    We have these type of discussions every year lol
    We do but I think it’s different now.
    In previous discussions were always driven by men being cheap. Now I think it stems more from the fact there are a true lack of quality providers that these guys see a lot of poor or mediocre providers and think the cost is inflated. Crazy thing is though, those guys that see low quality women at a low price is why the price doesn’t drastically increase.
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    @Spectrum u have the right to your opinion. I personally don't really care what the ladies charge if I don't like I just see someone else and if it to much for me then I'm drinking my tea and relaxing at home I have alot of time to relax so I'm not in any rush and if i can't find still no be deal for me and i will start a new chapter for myself go back to Europe and enjoy life and do different things that i haven't done before but that's just me can't speak for anyone else and no I'm no white knight just giving my opinion
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    If you don't like a girls rates simply skip and move on. High rates don't dicate a good provider. No different to me when I buy makeup. Packing might look pretty and it might be expensive but the product doesn't live up to its hype. I myself could probably charge way more I just don't care to. It works for me and I like my regulars maybe that will change but there's this exception that women should be charging higher rates as they go along. Never felt the need to. There's sketchy girls in every price bracket. Without mentioning names there's been a few who are extremely plastic and high end looking and expensive and are well known for scamming and robbing men in Toronto. I'm a big fan if you don't like something just move along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeatTemptations View Post
    If you don't like a girls rates simply skip and move on. High rates don't dicate a good provider. No different to me when I buy makeup. Packing might look pretty and it might be expensive but the product doesn't live up to its hype. I myself could probably charge way more I just don't care to. It works for me and I like my regulars maybe that will change but there's this exception that women should be charging higher rates as they go along. Never felt the need to. There's sketchy girls in every price bracket. Without mentioning names there's been a few who are extremely plastic and high end looking and expensive and are well known for scamming and robbing men in Toronto. I'm a big fan if you don't like something just move along.
    This post sums it up out there without the sugar coat. I love girls who support her regulars and keeps her rates reasonable.

    I myself have the money to play this "Rich Man Sport" but I'm not supporting girls who are abusing the system to rake in money using men like a ATM machine.

    Good providers get repeats! All you greedy girls are just deadbeats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectrum View Post
    This post sums it up out there without the sugar coat. I love girls who support her regulars and keeps her rates reasonable.

    I myself have the money to play this "Rich Man Sport" but I'm not supporting girls who are abusing the system to rake in money using men like a ATM machine.

    Good providers get repeats! All you greedy girls are just deadbeats!
    Actually I will agree with you to an extent on this one. It’s also why I think the Indy market is dying. Majority of the Indy girls are fakes or provide poor service. As for the “reputable” ones, post Covid a lot of them are now pushing their onlyfans and getting you to not only subscribe but then buy videos, or they’re pushing some gift list where they want you to buy them gifts of 100s if not 1000s of dollars just because they exist.

    I was never an agency guy and always preferred Indy girls but these days it’s harder and harder to support them
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    Escorts are like lawyers. Just because they have a high hourly rate doesn't mean you will receive great service. In both cases many will go through the motions.

    Best sex I have ever had has usually came from civilian women. There has been an occasional escort encounter that was awesome, but often they are lacklustre.

    There comes a price point where the squeeze isn't worth the juice.
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    I started taking part in this hobby in early 2017 and I've been about 40 to 45 different sex workers during that time, so here's my 2 cents:

    Others have rightfully pointed out one very important thing: Prices do not guarantee better service. All it does is indicate what the SP is willing to do based on the service, customer demand, and necessities required to make a profit. If demand and expenses are too much, prices go up. If the demand fizzles, then they go down. That's just free-market capitalism at work.

    As for my experiences, it's been all over the place. There are times when I've felt ripped off by SPs doing $140/hh and others when I've been blown away with ones that do $100/hh. It all depends on what you're looking for and how well you hit it off with the SP. But regardless of what they charge, a good rule of thumb is this: Any SP/MP that provides good service should always leave you walking away feeling satisfied.

    For me, I look for emotionally-intimate experiences where I can sit down and socialize with them before jumping in, and my budget ranges between $100-$140/hh or $180-$220 for a full hour. Anything for $150/hh or more would have to be with someone who I not only know and trust, but completely rocks my world. The only possibility I would ever pay $180/hh is if I plan on making them my wife.

    The unfortunate reality of this hobby is that it's a complete crapshoot. The first time you hit up an SP/MP, there's always going to be a risk that it'll suck, be amazing, or just "meh". So unless the majority of their client base is made up of those where money isn't a problem for them, I think that's something both the client and the servicer should always take into account when setting prices. $120/hh is a pretty standard rate, which I think is pretty reasonable, as I don't have money I can afford to burn. Yes, good service isn't cheap, but it should be reasonable. Anyone who charges $200/hh or more is out of their goddamn mind, and anyone willing to spend that kind of money either has too much money to spend or needs to seriously re-evaluate their life.

    Anyway, those are my thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda Labelle View Post
    This hobby is a rich man sport.
    When did this hobby become a "rich man sport". This hobby has always been accessible to the average working man. Prior to covid, the average working man could always find an affordable gem or two.

    I'm pretty sure if you went back and look at reviews prior to 2020, there were a ton of gems in 100hh to 200hr range probable including yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gleaner View Post

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    You were not kidding White knights or liberals Doesn't matter If there is no demand price drops
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    Lol I don’t care what you pay.
    Just like anything in life , just because you paid whatever
    the price is , doesn’t mean your getting better service .
    A girl who charges 120 -140 vs 200 up doesn’t mean
    you are getting anything better or worse .
    But the one thing I do notice is a lot of ass kissing and white knighting.
    Lol you know you’re paying for it.
    As soon as you leave the room , she has moved on !
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    No demand ? When is this going to happen lol
    There is always and forever been a demand .
    Only men pay for the love .
    This is never ever going to change !
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