Viviana 4919 - Avoid (Another strikeout on Leolist)

[BoyWonder411]

Had a terrible experience with Viviana.

No issues booking the appointment, she is very responsive via text.

Location was near don mills and Shepard (near Fairview mall).

She is much older and heavier (thicker) than the photos suggest but not bbw.

We agreed on bbbj, kissing and full service gfe but as soon as I got to the location, she found a reason to not do any of it...

To sum up the experience:
- very restrictive and lectures you about everything (non stop talking)
- got cbj even though she agreed to bbbj via text
- barely any kissing (peck on the lips at best)
- no cob (only place you can finish is the condom)
- does not follow instructions well (she thinks she knows better about how to get you off than you do...)

My experience was nearly identical to a prior review (my own fault for not listening):

https://www.sp411.cc/threads/277275-...highlight=4919

It felt kind of like a scam to be honest lol

Thank god I paid 100 and not her regular 140hh

Afterwards, she texted and apologized for the bad session (I think she felt guilty for scamming me lol) but what’s done is done.

Unless you are one of her regulars, I would avoid seeing her. There are so many better options.

Leolist Link: https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fem...22?source=list

[oldfart]

So did you discuss services before or after you asked for a quickie.

[BoyWonder411]

So did you discuss services before or after you asked for a quickie.

Yes I discussed before. She explicitly stated that she does bbbj which I made sure to confirm before heading over
She also said her services don’t change between quickie, hh or hour appointments, just the length of the appointment changes.

When I got there she started changing her story and saying cbj for today but bbbj next time, among other excuses.

[JaimeWolf]

Yes I discussed before.

From what Viviana tells me, she does CBJ if she sees hygiene issues with the client (bad smell, prickly hair, etc.) Since it was a quickie, did you shower in her apartment before the session?

[cex]

From what Viviana tells me, she does CBJ if she sees hygiene issues with the client (bad smell, prickly hair, etc.) Since it was a quickie, did you shower in her apartment before the session?

Have you seen her? If you have please give some intel cuz I have her on my TDL.

[BoyWonder411]

From what Viviana tells me, she does CBJ if she sees hygiene issues with the client (bad smell, prickly hair, etc.) Since it was a quickie, did you shower in her apartment before the session?

Yes I took a shower before. I also offered to take a shower again if hygiene was an issue including extending the appointment (compensating her of course). But she refused and kept saying bbbj next time.

Then I asked for a discount since she wouldn’t provided the agreed upon services and she also refused.

This is why it felt like a scam, I think she always intended to do cbj despite saying bbbj.

I believe her when she says she does bbbj with her regulars. Like I said, she messaged me afterwards and apologized and said bbbj next time for sure but I definitely won’t be coming back.

In summary, she is definitely not worth 140hh and there are even better options at the 100 quickie level.

That’s my last comment on her or this session. Good luck to anyone who sees her.

[oldfart]

Have you seen her? If you have please give some intel cuz I have her on my TDL.

I have seen her at least half a dozen times over the past two years, and can say that I have not had any of the issues BoyWonder has alluded to.

[mickey mouse x rated]

Have you seen her? If you have please give some intel cuz I have her on my TDL.

She's been on my TDL for awhile now but my schedule never seems to match up with hers. from the few chats we've had over text, she sounds friendly, sweet and accommodating but can't conform any of this until I meet her.

[cex]

She's been on my TDL for awhile now but my schedule never seems to match up with hers. from the few chats we've had over text, she sounds friendly, sweet and accommodating but can't conform any of this until I meet her.

From my experience in this hobby, even the bad SPs sound friendly and accommodating over text messaging. Not saying she is a bad provider, just pointing out what's a known fact in this industry.

[mickey mouse x rated]

From my experience in this hobby, even the bad SPs sound friendly and accommodating over text messaging. Not saying she is a bad provider, just pointing out what's a known fact in this industry.

I agree. that's why reviews are helpful but she never told me that she only does BBBJ with her regulars.

[JaimeWolf]

Have you seen her? If you have please give some intel cuz I have her on my TDL.

I had probably 30 appts with Viviana over the past 4 years. She was charging the same $140 hh / $250 1hr and using the same 647-975-4919 number in her BackPage ads 4 years ago (back when she shared her apartment with Dixie Blue and Norwegian Lyla). She definitely gained weight, but service has been remarkably consistent since day one: DFK, DATY, BBBJ on the first visit and every visit thereafter. Good BBBJ skills in my opinion though she struggles with DT. She's OCD about cleanliness - clean incall, clean bed, always freshly showered and smoothly shaved/lasered, and expects the same from the client. She told me she has refused DFK for bad breath and refused BBBJ for bad odor or prickly hair. With me she's very open chatting about this job and about her other clients, and will introduce me to other girls when they are sharing her incall apartment.

[mickey mouse x rated]

I had probably 30 appts with Viviana over the past 4 years. She was charging the same $140 hh / $250 1hr and using the same 647-975-4919 number in her BackPage ads 4 years ago (back when she shared her apartment with Dixie Blue and Norwegian Lyla). She definitely gained weight, but service has been remarkably consistent since day one: DFK, DATY, BBBJ on the first visit and every visit thereafter. Good BBBJ skills in my opinion though she struggles with DT. She's OCD about cleanliness - clean incall, clean bed, always freshly showered and smoothly shaved/lasered, and expects the same from the client. She told me she has refused DFK for bad breath and refused BBBJ for bad odor or prickly hair. With me she's very open chatting about this job and about her other clients, and will introduce me to other girls when they are sharing her incall apartment.

has she told you any reasons as to why she hasn't updated her profile age and newer pictures?

[JaimeWolf]

^Yes, she does it so forum trolls can dredge up a 4 year-old post to ask silly questions

[mickey mouse x rated]

^Yes, she does it so forum trolls can dredge up a 4 year-old post to ask silly questions

has is my question a silly question, what qualifies it as such? If you don't know, it's alright, no need for sarcastic remarks. and just because it's an old thread, doesn't mean it's useless.